With an Instagram following of more than 360k, you might have heard of Pattie Gonia. But she is more than just an Instagram influencer posting elaborate photos in five-inch heels and full-blown makeup in the wilderness. This drag queen is building a community for queer people, allies & our planet.

Today we talk with Wyn Wiley, also known as Pattie Gonia, to learn what it means to be an environmentalist drag queen, how a photographer from Nebraska found himself wearing knee-high boots and false lashes in the forest, and what choosing yourself can look like.

In this second of two parts, Derick and Carly talk with Wyn/Pattie about pronouns, the importance of choosing oneself, environmental stewardship, and the most sought out answer to the question: Who does Pattie’s makeup?

For the full episode, listen to Unlikely Stories Podcast here or on any platform that hosts podcasts.